Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Nurse Betty encounters 1975

by FatFreek 2005 in

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FatFreek 2005

That jwfacts.com link is priceless, BB.

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I remember those days well having been dunked in 1956. I don't know why it took me till '77 to shake myself to reality. However, I recall well the hype -- the strong implications (the WT never came out with a direct promise such as they did with the year 1925 -- yet they did a slight apology in the early 80's for their multitude of published implications ) and kinda turned my head after getting it puffed up with an appointment as an elder. I recall the feeling of self-importance at giving instruction talks in the TMS, the occasional public talks at various congregations. Having 4 young boys and a marriage that I suspected would crumble (it did) was a deterrent for a while. Those back burner issues simply got too bothersome to ignore any longer.

To those lurking -- the 1975 fiasco was real. I was there and will never forget. Check out your 1975 yearbook (on WT library CD), searching for the year 1925 and "anna macdonald" how they were starting to prepare the flock for disappointment in that 50th anniversary.

Len

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Nurse Betty encounters 1975

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Topics Ive Been Pondering On

by JWINQUESTION in

this is my first post on here so bear with me.

currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

FatFreek 2005

JWinQuestion: I brought out earlier how I read an article how gay partners are 17 times more likely to get an STD. The thought in my head of gay people dying because of increasing STDS due to their sexual lifestyle saddens me. That is why I don't condone the practice.

There have been many good comments already but one that may have been missed is this. Your "gay partners are 17 times more likely to get an STD" doesn't ring true. I might buy it if you were talking MEN since there is usually penetration involved. How about gay women where there is no penetration? See my point? Does this mean that men are unfairly targeted because they were born a male -- and that gay women are blessed simply because they were born a female?

I am a 73 year old heterosexual but began to question the society's (and most fundamental Christianity) harsh postion against gays when I was newly baptized at age 16. Dad and Mom had already been baptized a few years and Dad had become quite staunch about homosexuality. My uncle Leo, a homosexual, had arrived in our cityfor a visit and phoned Mom to extend his greetings and asked he we were home so he could come over. I could tell that Mama was excited that she would be seeing her brother for the first time in a long while. Not the case with Dad -- "he won't be allowed to set foot in this house if I have anything to say about it!"

I don't remember the argument that ensued cuz I stepped outside -- I hated their fighting. I do remember that Mama got her way as Uncle Leo showed up and was invited inside for a good visit.

I'll never forget the hate-filled and cruel position that Dad had adopted thanks to Watchtower teachings. I thought to myself, "are we supposed to interrogate every person that comes to our doorstep and only if they satisfy our moral standards -- then invite them inside?" Of course not, so why pick on family -- an uncle who was quite well-to-do his entire life, but simply had a different sexual lifestyle? At his death he had lived some 60 years in a monogomous relationship with "uncle" Jerry and had almost single-handedly financially supported his mother (my grandmother) from long-distance. This was before the days of our current welfare programs.

Len

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Use of terms JW website : using TOR instead

by yalbmert99 in

with the recent post on the jw website of a use of terms disclaimer, we should all start using tor a free software that can allow us to hide our real ip addresses when visiting jw.borg.. https://www.torproject.org/.

FatFreek 2005

By Googling the terms "tor security compromised", you will be able to explore a slew of articles on the recently publicized TOR problem. One of them leads its story with, "Andy Malone, head of Microsoft’s Enterprise Security, claims that the TOR (The Onion Router) network does not provide the anonymity that its many users think it does. ..."

Len

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PART DEUX: AN ALTERNATIVE CONVERSATION WITH A NEIGHBOR - Watchtower, November 2014

by AnnOMaly in

the second contrived and unrealistic conversation that one of jehovahs witnesses imagined having with a neighbor in the november 2014 watchtower will not be reproduced here.

instead let us imagine the other witness named andre (sorry, i meant) cameron has returned to the home of the other man also named jon.. nebuchadnezzars dream a tortuous recapcameron: hi there, neighbor!.

jon: whoa!

FatFreek 2005

Excellent satire, Annomaly. Well developed and logical. If only ...

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YES, you CAN shag your friends maid!!! It's all good !!

by DATA-DOG in

20 if a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave, betrothed to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, an inquiry shall be held.

they shall not be put to death, because she was not free; 21 but he shall bring a guilt offering for himself to the lord , to the door of the tent of meeting, a ram for a guilt offering.

22 and the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering before the lord for his sin which he has committed; and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven him.. leviticus 19:20-22.

FatFreek 2005

Since Jah doesn't tolerate it today he went thru a learning curve.

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The pope apologized to a group today -- has the GB ever done that?

by FatFreek 2005 in

i understand that the group was comprised of sex abuse victims at the hands of church clergy.

that got me to thinking -- has the gb ever apologized to the flock?

its teachings that are compulsory have been relaxed numerous times over the years.

FatFreek 2005

I understand that the group was comprised of sex abuse victims at the hands of church clergy. That got me to thinking -- has the GB ever apologized to the flock? Its teachings that are compulsory have been relaxed numerous times over the years. Prohibitions of blood transfusions, organ transplants, imprisonment for refusal to serve in the military, failed prophetic dates that encouraged JW's to sell their homes, quit their regular jobs, etc. Ms Conti, the victim of the recent sex abuse -- has she been apologized to?

The victims of all this have never, to my knowledge, received those magical words, "We're sorry".

What say ya'll?

Len

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Would it be possible to get notifications of replies, to Topics we've subscribed to, in the future?

by defender of truth in

i'm not complaining, jwn is an excellent research and discussion site, and easy to use.

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it's just that i feel i have to scroll back through pages of threads every day to see who, if anyone, has replied to me.. only asking, thank you for your hard work, simon and the mods..

FatFreek 2005

I always "Bookmark this page"using my Chrome browser, all of my posts, creating a brief description of the topic and the count of views at that moment. When I get done with this one, for example, I will have added a bookmark labeled "notification of replies, 261".

That way, I can find the exact thread easily; plus the number of reads after my post is derived by subtraction.

Len

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Disfellowshipping - The 10 year rule?

by Gembean in

is it true there is a 10 year rule?

i was reading on here when i saw someone quote it?

i've never heard of it before!.

FatFreek 2005

I was df'd in '77 (37 years ago). Two sons continue to shun me. One of them has 3 children, oldest 24, whom I have never met.